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	<title>Comments on: Take Note! Here&#8217;s ActiveInbox 4 Alpha 5 (with Firefox too!)</title>
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		<title>By: Yo Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yo Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also facing the same issue since the past few hours. I tried switching to Firefox, but it&#039;s the same. Is there some automatic update that happened? Can it be retracted by the dev&#039;s pls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also facing the same issue since the past few hours. I tried switching to Firefox, but it&#8217;s the same. Is there some automatic update that happened? Can it be retracted by the dev&#8217;s pls?</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help please!
The status buttons don&#039;t work at all. Whenever I click on one the native gmail label dropdown is activated. The ONLY way to add statuses is through the native gmail interface.  The problem persists on both chrome and firefox...

any help is greatly apreciated

Freddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help please!<br />
The status buttons don&#8217;t work at all. Whenever I click on one the native gmail label dropdown is activated. The ONLY way to add statuses is through the native gmail interface.  The problem persists on both chrome and firefox&#8230;</p>
<p>any help is greatly apreciated</p>
<p>Freddy</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Schulz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Schulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unsure if the new Google Extension for Content Farm Spam is the cause but my ActiveInbox shut down entirely right after loading the extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unsure if the new Google Extension for Content Farm Spam is the cause but my ActiveInbox shut down entirely right after loading the extension.</p>
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		<title>By: Monte Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monte Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I am really loving AIB 4.0.0.5! Aside from the errors I am getting in the Active view (which have already been mentioned,) I have a few minor requests.

1. I know this is probably already in action, but can we get the notes in a different font in the active view? And maybe an option for a different color?  I would really like to be able view them as distinct actions, but they just blend in and look like all the other poor subject lines.  

2. Just an FYI as I plan to change my system for this anyways, I have been using a * to keep a folder of personal projects at the top of my list (P/*Personal/Project Name) and none of the action items are showing up for these projects in the project view.

3. Please bring back the option to have status buttons and labels on separate lines.  The alignment changes between my laptop and monitor drive me crazy.

Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I am really loving AIB 4.0.0.5! Aside from the errors I am getting in the Active view (which have already been mentioned,) I have a few minor requests.</p>
<p>1. I know this is probably already in action, but can we get the notes in a different font in the active view? And maybe an option for a different color?  I would really like to be able view them as distinct actions, but they just blend in and look like all the other poor subject lines.  </p>
<p>2. Just an FYI as I plan to change my system for this anyways, I have been using a * to keep a folder of personal projects at the top of my list (P/*Personal/Project Name) and none of the action items are showing up for these projects in the project view.</p>
<p>3. Please bring back the option to have status buttons and labels on separate lines.  The alignment changes between my laptop and monitor drive me crazy.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Yori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happened to me as well, multiple times, in most case reloading gmail solved it but it keeps happening intermittently. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happened to me as well, multiple times, in most case reloading gmail solved it but it keeps happening intermittently. </p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy

I strongly suggest never to take content out of gmail. only concidering the privacy laws in each country you are going on very thin ice.

Why not simply store the note as a reply to self, omit the inbox and alter the UI for this message?

PS: Why I was actually comming here: Chrome does not save my preferences. I change S/ to A/ every time I start chrome new ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy</p>
<p>I strongly suggest never to take content out of gmail. only concidering the privacy laws in each country you are going on very thin ice.</p>
<p>Why not simply store the note as a reply to self, omit the inbox and alter the UI for this message?</p>
<p>PS: Why I was actually comming here: Chrome does not save my preferences. I change S/ to A/ every time I start chrome new <img src='http://www.activeinboxhq.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ravetz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Ravetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alpha 5 in Chrome: active results lists show some empty counts next to labels that do have emails in them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpha 5 in Chrome: active results lists show some empty counts next to labels that do have emails in them. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ravetz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Ravetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alpha 5 just lost all my preferencs, including custom label types, HAB setup etc!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpha 5 just lost all my preferencs, including custom label types, HAB setup etc!</p>
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		<title>By: M8R-4yy4bl</title>
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		<dc:creator>M8R-4yy4bl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t as concerned about this until I saw this version is sending subject lines and ids along with stored notes.

I would advise using this version until https is used for all communication between the extension and activeinbox.  Currently it appears notes are read and written using http.  The credentials are passed each time gmail is loaded or activeinbox needs to contact its server in such a way that they are repeatable (unsalted md5).  For example, an appropriate plugin for firesheep could recover a username and password hash and then acquire all of the notes for a given account.  Using TLS (https) would prevent this behavior and limit the reusable credential to an actual intrusion on the machine.  The replayable credentials weren&#039;t a huge deal until the notes issue.

Activeinbox should keep a default of sending no account data outside of gmail.  Only if someone wants to use such functionality should information stored in gmail be exported to another service.

In short, use TLS for all communications in the plugin.  Default to privacy friendly settings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t as concerned about this until I saw this version is sending subject lines and ids along with stored notes.</p>
<p>I would advise using this version until https is used for all communication between the extension and activeinbox.  Currently it appears notes are read and written using http.  The credentials are passed each time gmail is loaded or activeinbox needs to contact its server in such a way that they are repeatable (unsalted md5).  For example, an appropriate plugin for firesheep could recover a username and password hash and then acquire all of the notes for a given account.  Using TLS (https) would prevent this behavior and limit the reusable credential to an actual intrusion on the machine.  The replayable credentials weren&#8217;t a huge deal until the notes issue.</p>
<p>Activeinbox should keep a default of sending no account data outside of gmail.  Only if someone wants to use such functionality should information stored in gmail be exported to another service.</p>
<p>In short, use TLS for all communications in the plugin.  Default to privacy friendly settings.</p>
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		<title>By: HenrikB</title>
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		<dc:creator>HenrikB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

1) Storing subject lines is a privacy issue - there&#039;s lots of information in a subject line.
1a. What you&#039;re going to store needs to be very clear.
1b. The user must be fully aware of this.  I would vote for the user having to actively enabling this feature and/or sending/storing private data to your servers.
1c. There should be an easy option to complete delete any private data at any time.
1d. The above need to be very well tested.
1e. The above need to be part of the active design for all future releases.

2. What I wanted to say is that although it sounds easy, backup is tricky to guarantee at 100% (no one does).  There are endless stories how bullet-proof systems failed in this sense.  Even Amazon failed with where some power failure caused data loss for a (small) number of customs.  Another classical one is where nightly backups of hard drives were made. Everything was perfectly backed up.  The problem was that a crash in the file system caused all files to become empty while remaining valid (=0 bytes). When it was discovered, it was too late, because the history of the backups didn&#039;t go far enough back and all of the backup contained empty files. The latter I heard in person from three different sysadms at different places over several years.

3. I hear you, but from experience I also know that there is no such thing as bug free software and here is a case where you have to consider the risk for Murphy&#039;s Law applying because the cost is very high to mess up.


My main concern is about (1) where my data (with subject line) is stored on an external server.  Adding a web interface makes it even more vulnerable.  Instead, I think you should design your software and servers such that it will not be possible for you to access any users data what so ever.

Notes (and other types of private data) is better stored on the user&#039;s own Google Account.  That way you automatically solves (1) and (2).  I see it as a win win.


Is there really a pressing need to make Notes available where AIB isn&#039;t?  To me that sounds like a very rare use case, or do you mean that people may access their Gmail on, say, a public computer and then realize that they really need those Notes as well?

Related, what is stored on AIB servers today for free and pro users?

/Henrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>1) Storing subject lines is a privacy issue &#8211; there&#8217;s lots of information in a subject line.<br />
1a. What you&#8217;re going to store needs to be very clear.<br />
1b. The user must be fully aware of this.  I would vote for the user having to actively enabling this feature and/or sending/storing private data to your servers.<br />
1c. There should be an easy option to complete delete any private data at any time.<br />
1d. The above need to be very well tested.<br />
1e. The above need to be part of the active design for all future releases.</p>
<p>2. What I wanted to say is that although it sounds easy, backup is tricky to guarantee at 100% (no one does).  There are endless stories how bullet-proof systems failed in this sense.  Even Amazon failed with where some power failure caused data loss for a (small) number of customs.  Another classical one is where nightly backups of hard drives were made. Everything was perfectly backed up.  The problem was that a crash in the file system caused all files to become empty while remaining valid (=0 bytes). When it was discovered, it was too late, because the history of the backups didn&#8217;t go far enough back and all of the backup contained empty files. The latter I heard in person from three different sysadms at different places over several years.</p>
<p>3. I hear you, but from experience I also know that there is no such thing as bug free software and here is a case where you have to consider the risk for Murphy&#8217;s Law applying because the cost is very high to mess up.</p>
<p>My main concern is about (1) where my data (with subject line) is stored on an external server.  Adding a web interface makes it even more vulnerable.  Instead, I think you should design your software and servers such that it will not be possible for you to access any users data what so ever.</p>
<p>Notes (and other types of private data) is better stored on the user&#8217;s own Google Account.  That way you automatically solves (1) and (2).  I see it as a win win.</p>
<p>Is there really a pressing need to make Notes available where AIB isn&#8217;t?  To me that sounds like a very rare use case, or do you mean that people may access their Gmail on, say, a public computer and then realize that they really need those Notes as well?</p>
<p>Related, what is stored on AIB servers today for free and pro users?</p>
<p>/Henrik</p>
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